#1
Was a Transport Canada test car... said 4.9L per 100kms on the side, and a big DIESEL sticker. On the back it had the website http://www.tc.gc.ca/auto
Car looked really nice, save for the back end which was rather flat and unattractive.
Seemed to have phenomenal midrange pull (for its size/type of car/engine) - the driver went from around 120 to 140kph to pass a car and my A4 lost ground (I wasn't flooring it... but I have no reason to believe she was either... just one of those small provocations needed to drop an automatic out of lockup mode and give a few more RPM for passing).
I got along side it, looked it over... looked over the rather sexy girl driving it, she gave me a kind of polite but devilish grin that I basically understood as "I know you know what this car is, and I know you want tons of info on it, but you ain't getting any"
......................... I passed her and yelled out "damnit why do I never carry a camera!!!"
-- Probably GOOD news for all of you who want Honda's diesel 2.2L engine to come over to Canada in the next couple years tho!!
#2
Quote, originally posted by Live-Wire » I got along side it, looked it over... looked over the rather sexy girl driving it, she gave me a kind of polite but devilish grin that I basically understood as "I know you know what this car is, and I know you want tons of info on it, but you ain't getting any"
#4
element need this engine BAD.....
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#5
Pretty much the same version we get here:
Honda's 2.2's have been quite expensive here, but come 01.01.2007 the displacement-component of our tax will be replaced by a co2-one, which for the Civic, CR-V and Accord i-CTDi 2.2 spells an 11-15% pricedrop.
#6
Quote, originally posted by vag-tan-klan » Pretty much the same version we get here:
that's pretty cool
#7
The Honda CRDi is coming to the US in a couple years - I don't remember if it's supposed to be calendar year 2008 or model year 2008.Seems like a fantastic engine. I like that Honda isn't married to any one tech - hybrid, diesel, natural gas, H2 fuel cell, lean-burn gasoline, they've experimented with all of it and put them all in production.
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#8
I've got some bigger pictures of this wagon, I'll post them tonight.
#9
Hajduk from this forum actually works for TC and seems to have intimate knowledge of the advanced vehicle program. Hopefully he'll chime in at somepoint.It doesn't mean a diesel TSX is coming to Canada, though. TC seems to test these things for policy purposes... to understand the pollution-reduction technologies available. Honda will be bringing a diesel soon anyway, but it definitely won't be this (soon to be retired) body style.
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#10
I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
#11
Quote, originally posted by climacus » I've got some bigger pictures of this wagon, I'll post them tonight. yes please, my girlfriend has a tsx and boy do I wish they offered the wagon here!
#12
Quote, originally posted by MEIN_VW » I'd buy that in a heartbeat. Not me, it's too old, both safetywise, and by interior look and feel, I would however not mind having the funky 55mpg Civic 2.2 i-CTDi.
#13
Honda Diesel in Canada? Ohhhhh reaaaalllly?
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#14
Even in gasoline engine form a TSX wagon would be pretty cool. Anyone else find the amount of "car" behind the rear wheels a bit too much though? The proportions are a bit odd. I saw a lot of these in person...but always found the proportions behind the rear wheels a bit off.Still a really nice car though.
#15
I still say that the person that is responsible for the styling of the rear end of that car should be taken outside and beaten.
#16
yeah, the tail does look a little strange
#17
Quote, originally posted by Avus » element need this engine BAD..... Agreed. It would make the Element the perfect utility vehicle.
#18
Quote, originally posted by crazy88 » yeah, the tail does look a little strange This car is really really long in person. I don't know if it's an optical illusion thing or if it is in fact longer in dimension. Definitely not very TSX'esque. Just imagine the current USDM Accord in wagon form, but with a TSX nose tacked on, that's what it looks like in real life.
#19
Quote, originally posted by vag-tan-klan » Not me, it's too old, both safetywise, and by interior look and feel,
Too old? New for the 2003 model year is too old? It's exactly the same as an Acura TSX.
#20
Quote, originally posted by MikeNoGo » Hajduk from this forum actually works for TC and seems to have intimate knowledge of the advanced vehicle program. Hopefully he'll chime in at somepoint. I worked for this program at one time and drove this Accord quite a bit including some track time. The engine is the most refined diesel I've ever driven - it doesn't even sound like a diesel. The performance isn't quite as good as a BMW 2.0 (20hp more) but not bad. When I first drove it I felt the handling was a bit soft and the steering too light but once I got it on a track it actually felt better. The steering had decent feel and the suspension was very composed - more tossable than a 3-series but not as much grip. The shifter didn't have a good precise feel to it though. The cargo bay is huge. A colleague of mine drove it to the east coast of Canada and averaged over 60 mpg (Imperial).
#21
Quote, originally posted by Avus » element need this engine BAD..... Word. Maybe then I can get 22 city...
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#22
Quote, originally posted by MEIN_VW » Too old? New for the 2003 model year is too old? It's exactly the same as an Acura TSX.
I think the interior looks dated in many respects, and a 4 star EuroNcap is not enough in todays market.
#23
Quote, originally posted by vag-tan-klan » I think the interior looks dated in many respects, and a 4 star EuroNcap is not enough in todays market.
But you own a new car that got a 4-star rating.
Quote » AYGO by Toyota awarded 4-star rating in Euro NCAP AYGO backs up its four-star adult occupant rating with an excellent three-stars (36 points) for child protection and two stars (14 points) for pedestrian safety.
#24
Quote, originally posted by MEIN_VW » But you own a new car that got a 4-star rating.
Find a car in it's class that has 5, nope, there isn't one
#25
So does this mean we might be soon very soon getting the Honda CtDi in canada
#26
Oh geez. Don't anyone go showing RealBrit this. He'll cream his pants.
#27
Quote, originally posted by SchrickVR6 » This is what camera phones are for. You fail for not getting pics of the girl. Go sit in the corner. 
Sorry Sir
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#28
Quote, originally posted by MEIN_VW » Too old? New for the 2003 model year is too old? It's exactly the same as an Acura TSX.
Euro Accord gets an interior that looks more like the USDM Accord. TSX gets its own interior.
Which still doesn't look dated, IMO.
#29
Quote, originally posted by riceburner » Euro Accord gets an interior that looks more like the USDM Accord. TSX gets its own interior.
Which still doesn't look dated, IMO.
#30
Quote, originally posted by riceburner » Euro Accord gets an interior that looks more like the USDM Accord. TSX gets its own interior. Which still doesn't look dated, IMO.
Actually, TSX's interior is similar to the Honda Inspire interior. It's all swapped in Japan... The Honda Inspire exterior looks like USDM Honda Accord but with the Acura TSX interior.
Couldn't find a direct link to a pic.. but you can see on here: http://www.honda.co.jp/INSPIRE....html
#31
Quote, originally posted by bufo » Actually, TSX's interior is similar to the Honda Inspire interior. It's all swapped in Japan... The Honda Inspire exterior looks like USDM Honda Accord but with the Acura TSX interior. Couldn't find a direct link to a pic.. but you can see on here: http://www.honda.co.jp/INSPIRE....html
actually honda use 2 exteriors and 2 interiors to make 4 models... let say there are standard and nicer interior and bigger (US accord) and smaller (TSX) exterior
bigger exterior + standard interior = US Accord
bigger exterior + nicer interior = Inspire (japan)
smaller exterior + standard interior = JDM accord
smaller exterior + nicer interior = TSX (US)btw, Inspire actually is "down graded" because last gen Inspire is actually last gen TL for US.
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#32
If Honda doesn't introduce the 2.2 CRD-i for the 2008 Accord in the U.S. market they are missing out on BIG TIME sales.Only problem is making it as small a premium over the petrol I4 as possible. No more than $1500-$2000. Otherwise people won't buy it if it costs just under the V6 price.
#33
Quote, originally posted by thunderbird1100 » If Honda doesn't introduce the 2.2 CRD-i for the 2008 Accord in the U.S. market they are missing out on BIG TIME sales. I doubt they are missing out on much.
#34
Quote, originally posted by nismodrifter » I doubt they are missing out on much.
Well they're missing buyers more and more. The Accord is getting absolutely killed by the Camry these days. They need to do anything they can to try to hold on to some of their buyers.
#35
Quote, originally posted by AZGolf »
Well they're missing buyers more and more. The Accord is getting absolutely killed by the Camry these days. They need to do anything they can to try to hold on to some of their buyers.Yeah, if you count Camry fleet sales.
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