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  1. 01-28-2007 04:46 PM #1
    From the March edition of Car & Driver Magazine. Keep in mind that the Atom used in this test was the 245hp model (superchared GM engine), not the top of the line 300hp version.

    Lap times (Buttonwillow)
    Z06 2:01.00
    Exige S 2:04.30
    911 GT3 2:01.50
    Atom 1:58.30
    Noble M400 2:00.40
    Brock Coupe 2:02.70

    0-60
    Z06 3.6
    Exige S 4.1
    911 GT3 3.8
    Atom 3.0
    Noble M400 3.3
    Brock Coupe 3.7

    0-100
    Z06 8.3
    Exige S 11.1
    911 GT3 8.7
    Atom 7.5
    Noble M400 7.8
    Brock Coupe 8.4

    1/4 mile
    Z06 11.8 @ 122
    Exige S 12.8 @ 107
    911 GT3 12.0 @ 118
    Atom 11.5 @ 117
    Noble M400 11.7 @ 120
    Brock Coupe 11.9 @ 119

    Braking 70-0 FT
    Z06 153
    Exige S 154
    911 GT3 145
    Atom 148
    Noble M400 157
    Brock Coupe 153

    300-FT Skid Pad
    Z06 0.99
    Exige S 1.00
    911 GT3 1.05
    Atom 1.08
    Noble M400 1.02
    Brock Coupe 1.12

    Lane Change MPH
    Z06 66.3
    Exige S 75.8
    911 GT3 70.9
    Atom 70.8
    Noble M400 74.4
    Brock Coupe 72.4


  2. 01-28-2007 05:29 PM #2
    Theres no reason why it shouldnt dominate....

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    01-28-2007 05:40 PM #3
    Why not use the top model Atom? Aren't the others on the list top models, and more expensive too?
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  4. 01-28-2007 05:43 PM #4
    I love the Atom...but my God the Z06 keeps some fast company for a $70k production car!

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    01-28-2007 05:48 PM #5
    Personally, I think the Z06 showed everyone up in overall competence.

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    01-28-2007 05:55 PM #6
    Quote, originally posted by Shomegrown »
    Personally, I think the Z06 showed everyone up in overall competence.

    Porsche needs to move to 8 cylinders....


  7. 01-28-2007 05:57 PM #7
    Quote, originally posted by Xerxes »

    Porsche needs to move to 8 cylinders....

    Now you've done it!!!


  8. 01-28-2007 06:26 PM #8
    Quote, originally posted by Shomegrown »
    Personally, I think the Z06 showed everyone up in overall competence.

    Which is probably why it was ranked the winner in the comparo. Information that the OP seems to have left out.

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  10. 01-28-2007 06:32 PM #10
    Quote, originally posted by Xerxes »

    Porsche needs to move to 8 cylinders....

    I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.



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    01-28-2007 06:43 PM #12
    Quote, originally posted by LSchenz »
    Theres no reason why it shouldnt dominate....

    x2

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    01-28-2007 06:57 PM #13
    As Much as I love the Atom, for that kinda $$$, I'd take an Elise/Exige...

    It's got doors and a windshield!!!

    Also, of interest, it mentions that the Ariel in the US is powered by the Cobalt SS's Engine/Transmission....


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    01-28-2007 07:07 PM #14
    Quote, originally posted by L_Tech »

    Now you've done it!!!

    And stick the damn engine in the front or middle of the car.


  14. 01-28-2007 07:37 PM #15
    Braking 70-0 FT
    Z06 153
    Exige S 154
    911 GT3 145
    Atom 148
    Noble M400 157
    Brock Coupe 153

    wtf?

    Im very surprised the 911 bested the Atom in that test. What is the brake setup on the Atom?


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    01-28-2007 07:40 PM #16
    Quote, originally posted by Xerxes »

    Porsche needs to move back to offering a model with 8 cylinders....

    Fixed


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    01-28-2007 08:37 PM #17
    Quote, originally posted by CBJ »

    Fixed

    Fair enough. At least they had the decency to offer a 10 cylinder car even if they call is a Carrera


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    01-28-2007 08:57 PM #18
    Quote, originally posted by Xerxes »

    And stick the damn engine in the front or middle of the car.


    It's called a Cayman/Boxster. The 911 design isn't going anywhere. If you don't like it, get something else.

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    01-28-2007 08:58 PM #19
    Quote, originally posted by Art Vandelay »
    Why not use the top model Atom? Aren't the others on the list top models, and more expensive too?
    Yes, all the others have tops. *cymbal crash*
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  19. 01-28-2007 09:14 PM #20
    Quote, originally posted by Texan_Brandon »
    Braking 70-0 FT
    Z06 153
    Exige S 154
    911 GT3 145
    Atom 148
    Noble M400 157
    Brock Coupe 153

    wtf?

    Im very surprised the 911 bested the Atom in that test. What is the brake setup on the Atom?

    the fact that it is rear engined helps breaking tremendously.


  20. 01-28-2007 09:18 PM #21
    Quote, originally posted by Fangoriously »

    the fact that it is rear engined helps breaking tremendously.

    Quoted for LOL!


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    01-28-2007 09:25 PM #22
    Looking at the numbers, they were all very competitive and no car "dominated".

    What the Z06 makes up in speed is loses out, relatively speaking, in handling and braking. What the Exige doesn't have in straight line performance it seems to make up in tossability.


    Judging by the overall numbers, to me it looks as though the GT3 was the best "all around" performer (prince notwithstanding).

    Of course, having driven exactly ZERO of the listed cars, who am I too make a judgment.

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  22. 01-28-2007 10:17 PM #23
    Quote, originally posted by what »
    Looking at the numbers, they were all very competitive and no car "dominated".

    What the Z06 makes up in speed is loses out, relatively speaking, in handling and braking. What the Exige doesn't have in straight line performance it seems to make up in tossability.


    Judging by the overall numbers, to me it looks as though the GT3 was the best "all around" performer (prince notwithstanding).

    Of course, having driven exactly ZERO of the listed cars, who am I too make a judgment.

    The Z06 losing out in handling, and braking, is fairly laughable.

    BTW: this is a repost.


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    01-28-2007 11:19 PM #24
    Quote, originally posted by Nourdmrolnmt »

    The Z06 losing out in handling, and braking, is fairly laughable.

    BTW: this is a repost.

    Why is it laughable? It finished dead last in both handling categories and middle of the pack in braking performance.

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    01-28-2007 11:27 PM #25
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  25. 01-29-2007 02:04 AM #26
    Quote, originally posted by what »
    Why is it laughable? It finished dead last in both handling categories and middle of the pack in braking performance.


    The Corvette was the only car on street tires. All the others are known as "DOT R" race tires, common to autocrossers and road racers who don't want to run a full slick. Let me help explain it in picture form.

    Corvette tire (UTQG 220):

    Porsche tire (UTQG 80):

    Lotus & Atom tire (UTQG 60):

    Noble M400 tire (UTQG 60):

    Brock coupe tire (UTQG 30):



  26. 01-29-2007 02:04 AM #27
    This thread blows without pictures.

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    01-29-2007 03:07 AM #28
    Quote, originally posted by tehAndy »

    Quoted for LOL!

    Why? It's true.


  28. 01-29-2007 03:19 AM #29
    Quote, originally posted by Shomegrown »

    Why? It's true.

    Because, the fact that the engine is hanging off its rear end doesn't really contribute to its tendancy to break, unless you count people smashing them due to snap oversteer (which has largely been dialed out since the 993).

    Now if we're talking about braking, that's a different story.


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    01-29-2007 03:31 AM #30
    Quote, originally posted by gotapex »

    Because, the fact that the engine is hanging off its rear end doesn't really contribute to its tendancy to break, unless you count people smashing them due to snap oversteer (which has largely been dialed out since the 993).

    Now if we're talking about braking, that's a different story.

    Whooops, I missed that.


  30. 01-29-2007 10:34 AM #31
    Quote, originally posted by Buckeye(OH) »
    This thread blows without pictures.

    Well we have tire pictures! The rest of the article pictures are in the other thread.

  31. 01-29-2007 10:37 AM #32
    How does the Atom dominate if it's mid pack in each of the statistics you cite?

  32. 01-29-2007 12:00 PM #33
    The performance is so close as to be unimportant unless driven in anger, on a track, by a skilled driver.
    On looks alone I'd take the Brock Coupe.

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    01-29-2007 12:06 PM #34
    Quote, originally posted by Golgo-13 »
    How does the Atom dominate if it's mid pack in each of the statistics you cite?

    Did you look at the numbers?

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  34. 01-29-2007 12:10 PM #35
    Quote, originally posted by AZGolf »

    Brock coupe tire (UTQG 30):


    My God, what is the tread mileage for those? 500km? That tire probably leaves chunks of itself on every corner.

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